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Hidden power, secrets, cover-ups, corruption.

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You think you know the whole story?

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Think again.

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I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter.

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I've heard things that'll blow your mind,

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and now I think it's time you get the whole story.

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Now, the sleeper assassins.

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A government plot to turn ordinary citizens into programmed killers.

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This is a real thing, not just science fiction.

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Plucked from the crowd, subjected to mind control,

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tortured and turned into ticking time bombs who kill on command.

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You can take control over somebody's mind to the point where they essentially are your robot.

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They don't know when they'll strike, and when they do, they won't remember.

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Their memory is completely wiped out permanently.

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Jesse Ventura and his conspiracy team infiltrate the government's hair-trigger conspiracy,

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and Jesse goes face-to-face with one of the killers.

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This is bizarre, to say the least, because beyond bizarre.

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They call them Manchurian candidates, super soldiers.

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The government's real-life predators.

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I'm Jesse Ventura, a Mrs. Conspiracy Theory.

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A downtown parking garage, a showdown between two warriors,

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former Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura, and a self-professed government assassin.

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I was never told why, just that's a target, eliminate.

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Jesse Ventura knows what it's like to confront an enemy on the battlefield.

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But what has he walked into now?

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Have you killed people?

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I have.

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Am I in danger now?

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He's about to find out, and he's ready for action.

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There I was, looking into the eyes of a man who said he was a programmed killer.

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A killer for our government.

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And you want to know the strangest part?

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After all we'd uncovered, his story didn't seem so strange at all.

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It all began when we got a call from a law professor,

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who said he'd gotten his hands on some declassified CIA papers.

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We're talking about mind control.

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Who are the people who are the victims, who are the people who are the perpetrators.

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Mind control as an ability to take over somebody else's mind is not science fiction.

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It is possible.

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Alan Shafferlin is more than a top legal scholar.

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He's the award winning author of books like The Mind Manipulators,

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a courtroom expert on mind control.

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He sought out Jesse Ventura because his research indicates the CIA is creating a new kind of weapon.

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I think that the government is still in a mind control business.

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Now I'm familiar with back in the 50s, nearly 60s,

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what they always term MK Ultra.

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Is that part of this?

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Well they're all related.

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They're all related.

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Yeah, I mean they had interaction with all the different agencies,

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and they're all part of mind and behavior control experiments.

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That we certainly can prove.

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And the agencies don't deny that they did that.

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Would these techniques ultimately lead to Manchurian candidates

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that we've all heard about, people who are more or less hypnotized,

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programmed, robotic, who would go out and do a political assassination or things of that nature?

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The Manchurian candidate, the label for the brainwashed assassin,

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entered popular culture through a novel and two movies.

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Many assume it's all make believe.

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The first question I think is whether the construct of a Manchurian candidate is possible.

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Can you take control over somebody's mind to the point where they essentially are your robot,

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and they're not aware that they are so acting?

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And what's the answer to that?

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The answer to that is yes.

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So it gives plausible denial, you got the typical lone-nud assassin,

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and then no conspiracy, nobody tied to it.

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They could never reveal the information because they didn't know they had it.

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Why do you necessarily would the government need a Manchurian candidate to do an assassination

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when you could take a highly trained Navy SEAL and get the job done?

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Amnesia.

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If they're assassinating someone who they deem should be assassinated,

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a villain of some sort out there in the world, say an Al-Qaeda terrorist out there,

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why would they feel fear of the assassin talking about it?

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One of the ideas of a Manchurian candidate is to get somebody from another government to assassinate their head of state.

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What do you want me to do?

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I would like you to do many things if you could.

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One is to investigate whether or not the intelligence agencies are continuing the psychological aspects that work is still going on.

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I'm former military, and it bothers me greatly that our country could continue to use military people as guinea pigs.

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And that's one reason I think I can dig into this, because if our government is abusing our military personnel,

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It's worse than you imagine.

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In the time of war, a warning that rogue elements within the government are creating a new generation of assassin through mind control.

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Jesse Ventura's elite team of investigators and researchers will take on this top secret conspiracy.

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Hey, I learned about all this stuff back in the 70s when it was revealed the MK Ultra program had gone on literally for two decades.

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Isn't this stuff out of a movie?

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It's CIA experimentation, and through torture, you can basically create a second personality, basically a sleeper soldier. It's doable.

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So you're saying that the government is programming killers?

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Well, if you're old enough like me, you remember Sirhan Sirhan, the guy who allegedly killed Robert F. Kennedy.

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A lot of people claimed that he was programmed.

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He couldn't remember after he shot him that he didn't remember anything about it.

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Even today, he claims no memory of it.

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Yeah, and what about Mark David Chapman, the guy who killed John Lennon?

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He killed Lennon, he had opportunity to jump on the subway, run into Central Park, whatever, and yet he stood there, dropped the weapons, stepped back, and was there reading the catcher in the rye when the police arrived.

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What better way to do it than to be almost a zombie-like character who will carry out the mission with no regard whether they get caught or what happens to them in the end?

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We know that the CIA has tried my control. We know that the technology exists.

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I've heard all about this stuff. Now I want to know, can it really be done? Find me somebody who can show me that it can be done.

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Coming up, Jesse Ventura sees how even you could be turned into a programmed killer.

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When I call you on the phone, I will give you a word, and that word is...

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Then, his bizarre confrontation with the U.S. Army General who invented the psychic super-soldier.

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They could use the mind to explode the heart of a goat.

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And later, Jesse goes one-on-one with the real-life predator.

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Don't be surprised if some of your Navy sails weren't some of us.

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Jesse Ventura is chasing a deadly conspiracy.

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A secret government program that turns unwitting people into programmed killers triggered through mind control.

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Everyone thought the program was dead. Insiders say it's not.

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I think it's important for you and for people in general to really grasp that this is a real thing, not just science fiction.

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Are Manchurian candidates real?

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Definitely. And I can show you some documents that will convince you of that.

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Okay. So the government is in this business?

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Has been for sure for a documented fact.

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Dr. Colin Ross is a renowned psychiatrist and lecturer.

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He's written many books and papers on identity disorders and the CIA's experiments in mind control.

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Dr. what's your definition of, quote, a Manchurian candidate?

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Basically, an artificially created multiple personality where there's another identity inside,

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which is given the mission parameters, carries out the mission.

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And the idea, I think, is if they're caught and interrogated, the out front person has no memory for the mission, so it keeps the information secure.

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Secure, so they can use the one personality to carry the job out and then the other personality in essence is to cover it up?

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Dr. Ross, as he got his facts straight from the source, he used the Freedom of Information Act to acquire thousands of government documents.

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Does this fall under the CIA?

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Different branches of the military, but also CIA is really running most of it.

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People are given massive amounts of electric shock. Their memory is completely wiped out permanently.

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Most of these people, did they know what they were getting or were they really just monkeys in a laboratory for lack of better terms?

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It's just like the radiation experiments and the germ warfare experiments.

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Soldier, you're volunteering for this. Be here at nine o'clock tomorrow morning.

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We're testing a vaccine or we're testing a cold treatment or we're testing something or other.

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Doctor, you got more stuff to show me, don't you?

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Well, I want to bring in June one of my lead investigators, if that's all right.

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Sure, absolutely. I'll take you inside and show you some of this.

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Jesse Ventura wants Junesar Pong to be fully briefed for what she's about to face.

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This is the most dangerous investigation yet.

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They're creating robots to carry out missions that they need done in the end.

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I can show you a document here.

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Yes, please.

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All these are MK-Ultra files, so MK stands for...

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It's the certain division of the CIA that was running the program.

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You will understand that creating the Jekyll Hyde personality in the form of blanked out is taking a little doing.

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So what they were really doing was creating the Jekyll Hyde, a mentoring candidate.

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So this is hypnotic experimentation and research, and this woman, who appears to be a secretary for the CIA,

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is hypnotized, and it describes in great detail how she was instructed that her rage would be so great

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that she would not hesitate to kill Sonzo for failing to awaken,

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So she carried out these suggestions, the letter including firing the unloaded pneumatic pistol gun at Sonzo,

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Both were awakened and expressed complete amnesia for the entire sequence.

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How quickly could you turn somebody into this state?

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you get control of their life space for weeks, months, or a couple of years,

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A bunch of different drugs, interrogation techniques.

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Well, you know, talking about this has been interesting, but I personally right now would like to see it live.

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I'd like to see a live demonstration of what hypnotism can do in the real world here.

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Sure. So we'll go take a look at that.

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Dr. Ross takes the conspiracy investigators to watch hypnotist James Kellogg as he works with the subject.

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I want you to picture this beautiful golden staircase.

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This is no parlor trick.

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This is a basic demonstration of the first steps toward creating a Manchurian candidate.

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Kellogg will show in stark terms how expert mind manipulation can make people do things,

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This man's in a deep trance and he's been given a post-hypnotic suggestion.

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A post-hypnotic suggestion means the hypnotist is telling him that when he hears a certain word, he will behave in a certain manner.

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And so what we're seeing here is the Manchurian candidate is built on a foundation of things that any good hypnotic subject can do.

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If you asked him to do something that he knows is illegal in his conscious mind, will he do it anyway?

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I will call you on the phone.

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When I call you on the phone, I will give you a word and that word is gross, but...

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There are some people out here.

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There are some people out here I want you to come on out here.

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As far as Jesse can see, the hypnosis had no effect.

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The man seems normal enough.

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Rosebud.

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Is the sleeper assassin about to be awakened?

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I don't feel nothing, huh?

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Then, confirmation of military mind games from the general depicted in the movie, the men who stare at goats.

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What I did was to try to take the tunnel and take the blinders off.

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Black operations are operations that the government doesn't want people to know about.

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It could be assassinations.

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Almost anything you see in the movies today is kind of the beginning of what can be done, technologically.

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I would believe that because I know when I did Predator, I found out that whatever weapon Hollywood has in the US military will have it within the air.

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The thing that I liked about that show was the invisible villain.

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Invisibility is coming.

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Making a person invisible.

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The back of it picks up the scene behind you.

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The front of it puts the scene on the front of you.

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You could become like the creature in Predator where you kind of see a little outline as he moves, but if he holds still, you don't see a thing.

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This man's in a deep trance and he's been given a post-hypnotic suggestion.

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And you'll see what it turns out to be.

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And there's a trigger that's going to cue him to do the behavior.

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And when I call you on the phone, I will give you a word and that word is rosebud.

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When I say the word rosebud, you will begin to limp as you walk.

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It's a very distinctive limp.

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Very pronounced limp.

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And if I call you again on the phone and I say the word flower, you will instantly stop limping immediately and walking in normal pace.

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One, two, three, seven, eight, nine, ten.

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Slowly open your eyes up.

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The hypnotist has embedded two key words in the man's subconscious.

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An onward and an offward trigger words that will be delivered over the telephone.

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You know.

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Hello.

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Rosebud.

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Rosebud.

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Hello. Hello.

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The word does indeed trigger something within the subject.

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Lucky for Jesse, it's not a command to attack, only to change his behavior.

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Suddenly the subject is walking with a limp he did not have before.

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He doesn't realize he has it now.

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What are you limping for?

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Why are you limping?

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I'm not limping.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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I'm walking fine.

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Then the phone rings again.

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Hello.

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Flower.

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Flower.

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With this call, a new keyword.

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And he loses the limp.

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When the experiment is over, the subject comes out of the trance and can't remember a thing.

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Really kind of made the back of my neck tingle.

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Made the hairs of my arms to kind of stand on end with seeing all this.

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Why are you limping?

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I don't know, I think.

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Yeah, I did happen because it's on camera, it's on tape, I'm watching it happen in front of me.

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But I don't remember.

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And as he watches his actions replayed on video, that's what disturbs him most.

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He can't remember.

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I'm kind of violated, honestly, really kind of disturbed because I don't have any memory of this yet.

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I'm seeing it happen right in front of me.

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It scares me that that could happen.

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He realizes this wasn't a game.

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It wasn't a trick.

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He could have been ordered to kill.

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It scares me knowing that I did that and I have no memory of it and that I was able to be programmed, frankly, that easily.

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I think if you work on somebody enough, you could break their will and make them do anything.

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And I think that if it's used for the wrong thing, it could be disastrous.

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We made a guy limp just by saying the word rosebud.

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Now imagine if evil forces did the same thing, but did it over a period of weeks or months and threw in some torture.

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Okay, I've seen it done.

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Now I know they can do it.

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Who else could they have done this to?

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Well, let's take Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City Bomber.

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Now he claims to have been implanted with a chip, the microchip, and it's known that he worked at a facility in Buffalo,

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which was used for these microchip experiments in the 50s.

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Wait a minute, so McVeigh is a government trained killer now?

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Well, McVeigh is saying he was implanted with microchips. That's what he's saying.

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And what about the 9-11 high checkers?

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Well, the problem there is they're all dead.

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Now look, this is all speculation, everyone. We know that.

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Somehow we've got to find someone who believes that they may have been part of this program or worked in this program.

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Let's find me a whistleblower.

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Coming up, Jesse confronts the real-life Army General from the film The Men Who Stare at Goats.

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Of this Manchurian candidate situation.

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Is that possible?

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I have no doubt.

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Then, a strange man in a white van leads the team to the programmed killer.

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He's going to tell you what's really happening. You may not believe it, but you damn well better listen to it.

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He hasn't been wrong yet.

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And later, Jesse Ventura in mind-to-mind combat with a 21st century super soldier.

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Jesse Ventura has seen it's not so difficult to turn an ordinary person into a programmed killer.

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But is the US military doing it today?

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Jesse sends Junisar Pong to London to meet a man who's gotten inside the secret military operation.

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International journalist John Ronson wrote the book The Men Who Stare at Goats about the Army's adventures in psychological warfare.

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And so do you believe that Manchurian candidates are real?

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I mean, I certainly believe that they tried to, the CIA tried to create that.

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The CIA were really, really into this idea of creating a programmed assassin.

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To kill Castro or whatever.

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MK Ultra was partly about creating a truth serum and it was partly about trying to create a programmed assassin.

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And what were their methods?

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Well, LSD was a big one.

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They would spike people's drinks with a huge amount of LSD.

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So MK Ultra was pretty much as sinister as things got.

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What do you know about General Stubblebine?

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General Albert Stubblebine heard.

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He was head of Army Intelligence and 1980 to 1983.

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General Stubblebine was in charge of the psychic spies that fought me.

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He was trying to create a soldier who would have the power to walk through walls and levitate.

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He thought the American soldier would win all wars if they could learn how to walk through walls.

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While John Ronson speaks about Major General Stubblebine, Jesse Ventura is already on the way to meet the man himself.

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He's the mastermind of the Army's psychic warfare program.

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The basis for a central character in the men who stare at goats.

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In what you did in the Army, did you play with the minds of soldiers? Did any of that type of behavior go on?

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Let me just give you a thought.

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Most people wear blinders.

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Okay? They wander through life, looking through a tunnel.

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Tunnel vision.

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Tunnel vision.

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What I did was to try to take the tunnel and take the blinders off.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

334
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Whoa, this guy is definitely out there.

335
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But he was the head of Army Intelligence, and it proves that all this talk about mind control and psychic experiments is more than just a conspiracy theory.

336
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The military really did play with people's minds.

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I know, it sounds strange.

338
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Yeah, it's a strange...

339
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Stranger's heck, isn't it?

340
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Is this the preliminary steps to this quote super soldier we hear about?

341
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Oh boy.

342
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When I developed what I call the high performance task force and tried to find all of these technologies, very interesting thing happened.

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I was in my office one day and some people wanted to see me.

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Well, what they brought to me was the philosophy or the thought process of how they could use the mind, okay, very carefully directed, okay, and very carefully focused to explode the heart of a goat.

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I said, what?

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You know, bring that one back again.

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Time out a second.

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What they said to you was by using the mind and thinking whatever it is required to do, you could what then look at a goat and explode the heart inside it.

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Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, look at the goat with the intentionality of exploding the heart.

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I had to believe in what I could do, okay?

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I had to focus it at the heart and I had to focus it on exploding the heart, okay?

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Now, I have seen evidence that it's possible.

353
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And what evidence would lead you to believe that it's possible?

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Well, they showed me some examples.

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But you're not going to tell me.

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No.

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Do you think that MK Ultra practices go on now, the Menturian candidates, is this?

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My guess is that MK Ultra was, you know, very much a product of the paranoia of the 50s and 60s in the Cold War.

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So when you're in times of great paranoia, you're going to get resurgence of these kind of extreme responses.

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Are we in times of great paranoia?

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Well, we are in times of great paranoia and there's no doubt that a lot of really unpleasant things happened in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib to do with, you know, trying to get inside people's heads and kind of screwing people's heads.

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Now, you know, I'm drugs. So yeah, I think it's quite possible.

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In general, this Menturian candidate situation, in your experience and knowing how government operates, how the military operates, wouldn't you have to believe it's going on?

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Oh, I'm sure.

365
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That it's somewhere within that vast.

366
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I'm sure.

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That it's going on somewhere.

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I have no doubt.

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You can't really look someone up on the computer and say, are you a programmed killer of the government?

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I don't think the yellow pages are going to help us.

371
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Yeah, I don't think that will either.

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This is a tough one. Real tough one.

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There's somebody out there who knows something. There's too many of these stories.

374
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You need to find me a sleeper assassin.

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Coming up, the strange man in the van.

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Jesse Ventura's team tracks down the soldier who led the military's pack of programmed predators.

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Which means that you would have been responsible for a lot of assassination.

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I call various due to you.

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And later, the ultimate confrontation.

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The Navy Seal versus the super soldier.

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Did you serve in combat?

382
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Yes.

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Where did you serve?

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Despite every jungle on the world.

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Jesse Ventura had heard of Manchurian candidates back when he served as a Navy Seal.

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I learned about MKUltra, which was a program the government and the CIA operated where they used mind control in an attempt to create the perfect assassin.

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Now, Jesse is out to find proof that the program is back in operation.

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He'll meet me in a white van in a parking lot.

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Sources have led his investigator Jun Sarpong, an advisor Michael Braverman, to a parking lot outside Las Vegas.

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They were told to find a white van.

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You finally made it.

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I did.

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Inside, they find David Corso.

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Always on the move.

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Always undercover.

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The man who claims to be a veteran of a top secret MKUltra program called Project Talent.

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Sir David, now tell me, you were in Vietnam here.

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Yes, I was.

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And what was that experience like?

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A multitude of experiences.

401
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I went and did whatever they asked me to do.

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There are many things that I have fleeting recollections of, but I don't have a solid, what I would call memory of.

403
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So now you're the team leader of Black Homs.

404
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Yes.

405
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What does that mean?

406
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Black operations are operations undertaken by various groups within the military.

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To do things that the government doesn't want people to know about.

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It could be assassinations, it could be robbery, it could be theft, blackmail.

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Who knows?

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Which means you would have been responsible for a lot of assassinations.

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I call various duty.

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Corso says he's retired.

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He denies that he was a Manchurian candidate.

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But he says he recently met a young man who is a programmed killer and then some.

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One of the super soldiers, General Stubblebine, worked to create.

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Robert Duncan Ophinian.

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My friend and my buddy and my confidant.

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Duncan Ophinian has some unusual psychic abilities and talents.

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He has capabilities that I've seen demonstrated that people just don't have.

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He has unusual body strength.

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He has unusual martial arts talents.

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He has alter egos that have to be triggered by something.

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I've seen at least two of them.

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So what will we learn by talking to Duncan Ophinian?

425
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When you talk to Duncan, he's going to tell you what's really happening and what's going to happen probably.

426
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You may not like it. You may not believe it.

427
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But you'd damn well better listen to it.

428
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He hasn't been wrong yet.

429
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Is there someone you can lead us to?

430
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Oh, I could probably find him for you.

431
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The strange man in the van comes through.

432
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Soon, June and Braverman are in the same room as the programmed killer.

433
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Now you claim to be a super soldier. Can you tell me what that is?

434
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It's part of an experiment that started several decades ago and is continuing to run now.

435
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Where basically people are taken and genetically enhanced with implants

436
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and just turned into more than a normal human being with augmented strength, augmented speed.

437
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So they almost become fighting machines.

438
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That's correct.

439
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What kind of missions were you sent out?

440
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I would have to say at least half were termination jobs.

441
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By that you mean killing?

442
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Yes. Sanction murdered by the government.

443
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Can you tell us about some of these?

444
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A lot of time was spent in Central and South America.

445
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I did spend some time in Africa.

446
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There was also some covert operations that I was involved in in the States.

447
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And what was your last mission?

448
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I don't know.

449
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I have three days of missing time that I don't know what happened.

450
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When was that?

451
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That was about four years ago in the Virgin Islands.

452
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And you haven't been called again since?

453
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Not that I'm aware of. No, not that I'm aware of.

454
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Now there are going to be a lot of people watching this, Duncan, who think, come on.

455
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Of course. I don't blame them one bit.

456
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But if they do the research, especially with some of the Freedom of Information Act material that is out there,

457
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where they openly admitted that they did these experiments,

458
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and there was no closure to the experiment, then that's the CIA's own mission.

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And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

460
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So do you think you were created by the CIA's MK Ultra?

461
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Nearly every acronym that is used in the Mind Control programs follows under the MK Ultra umbrella.

462
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In that sense, yes.

463
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So how did you end up there?

464
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It's generational. My father was a CIA asset.

465
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Something I didn't find out until several years after he died.

466
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,000
The Opinion claims that powers from implanted chips make him a super soldier,

467
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
but his programming fits the pattern of a Manchurian candidate.

468
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Trigger words, code words, so that that personality could be brought out when it needed to be brought out.

469
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:13,000
And when that job was over, key words were given, that personality went back to sleep.

470
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,000
This personality came back with no knowledge of what they ever had done.

471
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,000
That often personality was only supposed to manifest when triggered by code words or key words.

472
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,000
In my case, it was usually a phone call.

473
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,000
The phone would ring, I'd answer the phone, become stoic, just blank face.

474
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Sometimes I would pack a travel bag, sometimes not, and wouldn't leave.

475
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000
So there you have it, Governor.

476
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Well, it's clear as day that he believes it.

477
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Well, I'll tell you what, this guy's so bizarre, I want to talk to him in person.

478
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,000
I want a one-on-one interview with this guy.

479
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Coming up, Clash of the Titans.

480
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Jesse Ventura goes up against the Manchurian candidate, super soldier.

481
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Would the powers to be be extremely upset if they know you're talking to me?

482
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
Absolutely.

483
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Jesse Ventura is about to confront a programmed killer.

484
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Robert Duncan Ophinian says he's living proof that the government's top secret sleeper assassin program is back in action.

485
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Jesse Ventura, decorated war veteran in Navy SEAL, demanded to judge this so-called super soldier man to man.

486
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,000
The meat takes place in a downtown parking garage.

487
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,000
This is bizarre, to say the least.

488
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,000
It goes beyond bizarre and gets more bizarre as you dig down the rabbit hole.

489
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:07,000
We've all read about quote-unquote Manchurian candidates, and what you're here to tell me is it's absolutely real.

490
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000
It is absolutely real.

491
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,000
However, we were beyond Manchurian candidate.

492
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Manchurian candidate, as a rule, was designed to do one job, one job only.

493
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000
We did, multitudes.

494
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Now, when you say we, who's we?

495
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Now, are we speaking here of MK Ultra?

496
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,000
MK Ultra is more of a catch-all phrase for anything to do with what we're talking about.

497
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,000
The governor finds out more about Ophinian-supposed microchip implants.

498
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Correct me and educate me as we go along here.

499
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
You were involved in a car accident.

500
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Correct.

501
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
And because of it, you got an MRI.

502
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Right.

503
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,000
What happened is the MRI caused the cranial implant to malfunction.

504
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:59,000
And when it malfunctioned, it broke down specific barriers that were put in place to keep memory separated, departmentalized, as it were.

505
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:06,000
And it was at that moment I knew that all the nightmares, the daydreams, weren't just dreams.

506
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,000
They were actual memories of the different personalities, mission, and together.

507
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,000
After that day, I basically had a choice.

508
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000
You would go totally insane or find out what happened.

509
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000
How many implants did it turn out that you had in you?

510
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000
I know of three.

511
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000
And I've told I have at least five, maybe seven.

512
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:37,000
And you have no recollection of these implants being put in your body?

513
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,000
No.

514
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:44,000
When Ophinian describes how he was programmed, the story is all too familiar.

515
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,000
What they did with me and us in the group was these trauma-based torture.

516
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Which would be?

517
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Well, in my case, it was beatings, waterboarding, being strapped in a wooden chair.

518
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:03,000
With my finger spread open and then needles inserted underneath the fingernails.

519
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
And they do this for what reason?

520
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,000
To cause so much pain that you will black out, you will faint.

521
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:18,000
However, at the same time, you have an IV hooked up to you with a drug cocktail that eliminates that.

522
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Eliminates the pain?

523
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
No, eliminates blacking out.

524
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000
You cannot black out, you cannot faint.

525
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000
It's at that time, your psyche has two choices.

526
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Split to an alternate personality or die.

527
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000
One thing's pretty clear.

528
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Ophinian absolutely believes what he says.

529
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,000
But does Jesse Ventura, did you serve in combat?

530
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Yes.

531
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Where did you serve?

532
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Southeast Asia, Central America, South America.

533
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Just about every jungle in the world.

534
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,000
And you did that as an operative of who? The CIA?

535
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
CIA, the NSA, whoever.

536
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Okay, but you were not in military service.

537
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,000
No.

538
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,000
We were created by some black operation factions of the government somewhere somehow.

539
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Yes.

540
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:12,000
But we were loaned out, sold out, hoarded out to whatever agency needed us to do a job for them at that time.

541
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,000
And now the training they put you through, what type of training do you recall you went through?

542
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Severe physical training, martial arts training, marksmanship training.

543
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
You name it, we went through it.

544
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:33,000
We were taught to fly a variety of aircraft, drive a multitude of vehicles from tanks to both wagons.

545
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Really?

546
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Everything in between.

547
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Anything that needed done, we were trained to do.

548
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
So they didn't need us Navy SEALs anymore?

549
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Don't be surprised if some of your Navy SEALs weren't some of us.

550
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Let me ask this, you said we could be blunt and straightforward, right?

551
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Absolutely.

552
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Have you killed people?

553
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,000
I have.

554
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,000
You have?

555
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000
I have.

556
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
And you've killed them through this operation?

557
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Correct.

558
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Now, let me ask this, what type of target would you get and for what purpose?

559
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Usually I was never told why.

560
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Just, that's your target, eliminate.

561
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000
And you had no control over this when you did it?

562
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,000
No.

563
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:23,000
As your memories come back, do you remember things that you naturally wish you wouldn't remember?

564
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Every day.

565
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Every day?

566
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Every day.

567
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000
And you actually still work for people today?

568
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000
Not that I'm aware of.

569
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Do you fear for your life today?

570
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:40,000
The CIA and the government is very good at doing preemptive strikes.

571
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Would the powers to be be extremely upset if they know you're talking to me?

572
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Absolutely.

573
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Am I in danger now from talking to you?

574
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000
No, you're too high profile.

575
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Yeah.

576
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
So it's just a small minority within the government that does this?

577
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Right.

578
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,000
Absolutely.

579
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:02,000
So whoever created all this and did all this to all you people, you feel should be held accountable for it?

580
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
They should be.

581
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:10,000
And that's part of our goal, find these people, hold them accountable, stop what's going on and give us some closure.

582
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Duncan, good luck.

583
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Thank you.

584
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Three generations of soldiers, psychiatrists, investigative journalists, and the victims themselves have made it clear.

585
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Menturian candidates, programmed assassins, super soldiers are out there.

586
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:47,000
And the question is, how many?

587
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:53,000
We know the US military has been experimenting with mind control since the 1950s.

588
00:42:53,000 --> 00:43:01,000
We've seen how hypnosis, torture, and other techniques can make ordinary people do things they otherwise couldn't do.

589
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
I met a man who says they did it to him.

590
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000
And remember all the high profile assassins who fit the pattern?

591
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,000
One thing's for sure, all of them believe the government turned them into weapons.

592
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000
Coincidence?

593
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
I don't think so.

594
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,000
And from what we've found, I'm convinced there's more of them out there.

595
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Let's just hope their sights are aimed at the enemy.

596
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,000
I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory.